Spiritual Dialogue

  • Year 1551
  • Type Treatise
  • Genre Mysticism
  • Tradition Medieval Catholic
  • Original language Italian

For Readers of allegory and of the soul's conversion: Soul, Body, Self-Love, Spirit and Humanity speak in turn, telling Catherine's turn from the world to God and her life afterwards.

Length About 35,300 words, about 2 hours.

Should I read this?

For the general reader
3 of 5 worth your time
For the researcher
3 of 5 worth your time
Difficulty
3 of 5 demanding

An allegory in which the Soul, the Body, Self-Love, the Spirit and Humanity argue out a conversion modelled on Catherine's own; composed by her circle from her teaching after her death.

How it proceeds
  • Philosophic 2 of 5
  • Scriptural 1 of 5
  • Experiential 4 of 5
  • Sociological 1 of 5
  • Historical 1 of 5

Independent intensities, 0–5 — what the work is made of, not how good it is.

The Spiritual Dialogue (Dialogo spirituale) is the longest of the three texts that carry the name of Catherine of Genoa (1447–1510), the Genoese noblewoman who, after a decade of unhappy marriage, was seized by an overwhelming sense of God's love during confession in March 1473 and spent the rest of her life serving the sick and dying at the Pammatone hospital. Catherine wrote nothing herself. Her teaching was preserved by the circle around her, chiefly her confessor Cattaneo Marabotto and the lay disciple Ettore Vernazza, and the Dialogue was published together with her Life and Purgation and Purgatory in the Genoese edition of 1551, four decades after her death. It is therefore not a transcript of her words but a disciples' reconstruction of her inner history, cast in dramatic form so that the reader can watch a soul being remade.

The work opens as a contest among allegorical speakers. Soul longs for God; Body wants its comforts; Self-Love steps in as broker and proposes a reasonable compromise, a little of each. The Soul agrees, and the agreement is its undoing: step by step it drifts into worldly ease, until it can no longer see its own condition. The turning point is not the Soul's effort but God's intervention, a flash of divine love that shows sin in its full ugliness and sets the Soul on fire with longing. From here the Dialogue follows the slow purgation that Catherine's circle took to be the center of her teaching. Human Frailty and Spirit now speak, and the Lord himself enters the conversation, stripping the Soul of every consolation it had leaned on, including spiritual ones, until nothing is left but the bare desire for God. The famous Catherinian claims appear here: that pure love cannot tolerate any self-regard, that the pains of purgation are the pains of love encountering what still resists it, and that the soul finally has no self to speak of apart from God. The closing portion narrates Catherine's long final illness and death, drawing closely on the Life, so that the allegory lands in a body on a bed in Genoa.

The Dialogue has mattered because it gives a psychologically exact account of how a devout person negotiates with God and loses, and why losing is the point. Its portrait of Self-Love as the plausible middle voice, rather than as an obvious villain, remains uncomfortably recognizable. Friedrich von Hügel built his The Mystical Element of Religion (1908) around Catherine, and her account of purgation as the fire of love has shaped Catholic reflection on purgatory ever since.

Who should read this: those drawn to the interior itinerary of the great mystics, especially readers who have found Teresa of Ávila or John of the Cross compelling and want an Italian counterpart in dramatic form. It will frustrate anyone looking for Catherine's own voice unmediated, or for a tidy devotional manual; its allegory is slow and its demands are total, and readers wary of the language of self-annihilation should begin with Purgation and Purgatory instead.

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  • OTHER Exchanged edition PD
    Source: Exchanged
    Read it here on Exchanged: the Spiritual Dialogue in the anonymous 1874 American translation, set for reading on screen in its three parts, with the summary the edition gives each part and chapter. Taken from a proofread transcription; nothing left out.

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  • OTHER Spiritual Dialogue (CCEL) PD
    1907
    The Dialogue in all three parts, as it appears in the 1874 New York translation of the Life and Doctrine (reprinted 1907), proofread and free to read online at the Christian Classics Ethereal Library. The translator is not named.
  • 🎧 AUDIO Spiritual Dialogue (LibriVox)
    2012
    A free LibriVox audiobook of the Spiritual Dialogue in English, read by Ann Boulais (2012).
  • PDF Spiritual Dialogue (Internet Archive (Italian, Venice 1590)) PD Italian
    1590
    The Italian text, in a Venice edition of 1590 (Giovanni Fiorina) of the book first printed at Genoa in 1551, which carries the Dialogue after the Life and the 'declaration' of purgatory. A scan of the printed book, free to read in full.
    Much harder than the work: The original sixteenth-century Italian, in old type, with no translation.

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